Posted on February 15, 2006, 7:51 pm
A comment from Ingrid in Sweden:
Believe it or not, some doctors in Sweden recommend that the dairies start putting [fluoride] into milk because of children getting more caries - rather than deal with the real problem - eating habits and sweets!
Posted on February 16, 2006, 10:17 am
An article in the La Trobe Valley Express, forwarded by Australian anti-fluoride campaigners, shows the stark contrast between fluoride proponents and those who say the stuff is toxic:
Anti-fluoride campaign goes across Victoria
Thursday, 16 February 2006
GIPPSLAND Safe Water Alliance (GSWA) members will join concerned citizens from across Victoria this weekend to develop a state-wide strategy opposing fluoridation.
Alliance spokesperson Shane Elson said in response to the Bracks Government's refusal to consult with and listen to community concerns about artificial fluoridation, a state-wide, coordinated approach to the issue would be organised.
Mr Elson said groups had formed across Victoria in response to the announcement in May 2005 that the government would introduce artificial fluoridation in to a number of water supplies.
Groups from Ballarat, Warrnambool, Geelong, Daylesford, Wangaratta, Horsham and Wodonga will meet with Gippsland Safe Water Alliance members in Melbourne on Saturday to begin planning the state-wide campaign.
The meeting of regional groups will plan strategies based on swinging or marginal seats and will target sitting Labor members in those areas.
"Neither the GSWA or the regional body will endorse candidates but we will support those who oppose artificial fluoridation or will call for the full review of it," Mr Elson said.
"The Queensland Government has recently backed down and put a five year moratorium on forced fluoridation because the voters in that state don't want it."
Labor MLA for Morwell Brendan Jenkins said he did not feel threatened by the GSWA plan.
"I'd feel threatened if the people of Gippsland didn't have the opportunity to have a fluoridated water supply, the same as people in Melbourne," Mr Jenkins said.
"This is an essential public health issue that has the overwhelming support of the health profession."
Mr Jenkins said the Federal Coalition was behind the supposed demise of the public dental health system.
"If the group is targeting Labor it is effectively throwing its weight behind the party that dismantled the public dental health system.
"For GSWA to politicise the issue and give support to the Coalition who dismantled the public system is outrageous."
Mr Jenkins said the provision of fluoride in the water had, for all intents, been supported by all the political parties except for a couple of isolated calls for consultation after the deadline, including that made by Nationals MLC for Gippsland Province Peter Hall.
He said claims by the GSWA that the Bracks Government had refused to consult with the community regarding fluoridation were "not fair".
A number of briefings were held for people with concerns about fluoridation, he said.
Meanwhile, a spokesperson for Victoria's chief health officer, Doctor Robert Hall, said the GSWA had misrepresented information supplied by Dr Hall.
In an article printed in The Express on 9 February the GSWA said a letter received by the alliance from Dr Hall said an "undesirable cosmetic effect" caused by artificial fluoridation was expected.
"The letter from Dr Hall referred to by the GSWA and quoted in The Express contained serious misrepresentations," the spokesperson said.
"The 1998 Melbourne University study of dental fluorosis prevalence in Melbourne school children found 70 per cent of the sample were normal, 15 per cent had questionable fluorosis and 15 per cent had signs of very mild or mild fluorosis.
"Further, the letter also stated that the study found that `this degree of dental fluorosis is of no public health concern and the Melbourne water fluoridation program is strongly endorsed'.
"At no stage was it intimated that an `undesirable cosmetic effect' in 30 per cent of the population was expected.
"Motling of teeth can be caused by a range of things, one of which is the fluoridation of drinking water supplies."
The spokesperson said the Department of Human Services included a detailed section on fluorosis in the community booklet on water fluoridation distributed last year to more than 48,000 households.
"It is also well known that fluorosis occurs in areas where there is no fluoride in the water, which is why we urge caution about use of fluoridated toothpaste and fluoride tablets for children.
"Fluoridation of drinking water supplies has been proven to be safe and effective."
Posted on February 22, 2006, 5:37 pm
Regarding Fluoride and it being a harmful substance, there is a brand new study that links fluoride exposure with childhood bone cancer. "Studies by the United States National Toxicology Program have suggested a plausible biological link between childhood fluoride exposure and osteosarcoma cancer." Link here: http://www.onlinelawyersource.com/fluoride-osteosarcoma/osteosarcoma.html
Posted on March 21, 2006, 9:20 pm
If anyone's inteested, I am willing to send them my son's teeth to see if the damage was caused by flouride. I bet it was.
Posted on March 22, 2006, 5:09 am
by Mr Henri Virtanen
I am using a library computer have only one hour/day. Fluoride is a deadly posion and should not be put in our drinking water.
Now they try to put this deadly posion into our drinking water where i am living in Australia.
It is a lot of information in your above article, i hope to be able to read it one day. It is to expensive for me to print it out.
I really need it to kick this bastards in the backside, who are pushing for putting this deadly posion in our drinking water. Yours sincerely
Posted on July 18, 2006, 6:28 pm
What soap to you recommend & brand to brush teeth with and what is good to neutralize acids. What can be added topically to the tooth to build the enamel?
Posted on July 18, 2006, 8:04 pm
I tried a soap for a while but didn't like it, so I don't recommend.
Started using sodium bicarbonate (as in baking powder) on toothbrush to brush teeth and have been happy with it. Bicarbonate does neutralize acids.
Have no experience with topical application to teeth to build enamel.
Posted on September 6, 2006, 11:29 am
My teeth have lost their
when I eat sour things they
cause tooth pain.
Please advise me how to get
back enamel for my teeth.
Posted on October 6, 2006, 6:51 am
Regarding question on how to re-enamalize teeth: Dr. Gerard Judd mentioned "Monosodium Phosphate" ....which is what enamel is made of. Take 1gram per day in 1/2" of water in glass, swirl for less than a minute; add 6oz of water to it, and drink a glass each day. You can get this food-grade product from Kvet.com....it is a site for horse/pet owners. It thus comes in a huge container that lasts a lifetime....but please, don't use directions on container (its for a horse!)...you must only take 1/5 tsp (1 gram)...alternatively, Dr. Williams (naturopath, MD) suggests 300mg serving (a small capsule, in otherwords). I emptied a gelatin capsule (350mg) from another vitamin I take...and I use it to scoop up the approx. 300mg, suggested by Dr. Williams, to add to glass of water as Dr. Judd prescribes. This way I know I do not overdose! Phosphate is good, but too much creates real problems. So be careful!
Posted on November 16, 2006, 1:50 am
by yelena grigoryeva
I like to know how much of monosodium phosphate and calcium a 9-year-old child should take.
Also, if I would boil tap water, will it remove fluoride?
Posted on February 5, 2007, 2:09 pm
To correct posting of Oct 6, 2006.
the correct website for Source of
Posted on October 8, 2007, 8:10 pm
by Joe Mamma
I have brushed my teehth and gone to the dentist for 38 years and have never had a cavity. And if that Judd fellow was so smart he would know that waste left by bacteria that consume the sugar on your teeth form an ACIDIC WASTE. Which breaks down enamel over time.
Posted on December 3, 2007, 11:59 pm
My 2 and 4 year old have had to have the top four front teeth caped (the dentist blamed it on my breast feeding for 22 months each)and are about to go in for five more caps on my 4 year old and 2 caps plus 3 fillings on my 2 year old. We have non floridated mountain well water, I avidly brush their teeth I limit sugary sticky food. I tried EcoDent and my current dentist said that baking soda was like useing ajax. Could it be a nutritional/ph balance problem? What am I doing wrong?!
Posted on December 4, 2007, 5:50 am
have you tried analyzing your mountain spring water? You might find a clue there.
Posted on January 27, 2008, 2:47 pm
Has anyone actually had enamel re-grow by drinking the Monosodium Phosphate like it is suggested on this page?
Posted on April 9, 2008, 12:59 am
The information sounds convincing, but even a school dunce knows that acid compounds cause tooth decay. He suggests sipping milk whilst eating? I suppose he wants to tell us there is no acid in milk?
This is the quackiest chemistry professor I've yet encountered.
Posted on April 9, 2008, 6:25 am
Instead of name calling, let's look at the facts of milk.
(from Milk chemistry - an introduction)
An acid is a substance which dissociates to produce hydrogen ions in solution. A base (alkaline) is a substance which produces hydroxyl ions in solution. It can equally be stated that an acid is a substance which donates a proton and a base is a substance which accepts a proton.
The symbol pH is used to denote acidity; it is inversely related to hydrogen ion concentration.
Neutrality is pH 7
Acidity is less than pH 7
Alkalinity is more than pH 7
Fresh milk has a pH of 6.7 and is therefore slightly acidic.
When an acid is mixed with a base, neutralisation takes place; similarly a base will be neutralised by an acid.
Buffers are defined as materials that resist a change in pH on addition of acid or alkali. Characteristically they consist of a weak acid or a weak base and its salt. Milk contains a large number of these substances and consequently behaves as a buffer solution. Fresh cows milk has a pH of between 6.7 and 6.5.
To me, this means that milk, although slightly acidic, will not destroy your teeth. Indeed it will protect them by buffering any strong acid that might be introduced with other foods.
Posted on June 2, 2008, 7:44 pm
by Monica Sartin
From one of our Tooth Chip - soap for teeth customers.
When I was small my mother was told to give me 8 drops of fluoride A DAY! because that was the protocol of the time. I have dental fluorosis as a result; my teeth are stained and spotted, they are brittle and cracked and some are broken, and they are sooooooo sensitive that I have been unable to eat most foods comfortably. Most stuff I avoided altogether. And don't get me started about the receding gums. THIS was the state of my dental health when I decided to try your chips. I don't mind telling you that I was very scared to try them. What if they made me WORSE??
After three days of using them 2 times daily I was very surprised to find myself chewing pizza, crust and all, without being delicate about it! I was shocked but I kind of chalked it up to the placebo effect.
Then, I found I could have a spoonful of yummy local honey -- WITH NO PAIN!!! Imagine! I've avoided honey for years because of the pain it caused my teeth! So, it went on like this for a week, me thinking STILL that it must be a placebo thing, meanwhile I'm enjoying foods I haven't had in ages without weeping.
After a week my mother said, How come your teeth look so good? They're whiter than they've ever been! So I told her about your amazing product.
I'm seriously shocked, amazed, and eternally grateful that I can eat comfortably now, I can breathe through my mouth if I have to without hurting my teeth, and I can look forward to an old age with my own teeth, most likely!! You have no idea. Your gift is a Godsend to people like me. "Thank you" doesn't begin to cover it but that's all I can think to say.
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Posted on August 29, 2008, 11:32 am
My 12 year old son, who has a emaculate dental routine x2 daily, was shocked when he saw images of his back molars on his dentists mouth camera. No enamel! The only cavities he know has is on those back molars, and all are also very sensitive. The dentist questioned whether my son had a high fever or took a strong dose of antibiotics when these molars were developing, (around age of 7-10). Also very strange that not all the molars were affected the same on either side. When we moved to our property when he was 3 we were on a very acidic well, decided eventually to buy bottled water because of the unknown effects on young children's bodies. We gave flouride, half recommended dose to our children, around age 6 or 7, then after we ran out decided to stop because of all the controversy with this practice. We now drink city water (Victoria, BC) My son is very healthy, rarely needed anti-biotics, and eats very limited sweets, drinks etc. My son will likely need crowns on these teeth in the near future, with no dental plan as of yet this is troubling news. Would love some feedback, if there is any way this could have been prevented, this should be shared with all parents, doctors etc. and is there any suggestions how or if you can build up enamel? Sincerely,
Posted on September 15, 2008, 5:52 pm
I am confussed, it say to drink Monosodium phosphate, then it say that harmfull if swallow???
Posted on November 9, 2008, 11:39 pm
How can I find a source for the monosodium phosphate for strengthening the teeth and gums? I have found the information here as to dose but not a source to purchase.
Posted on May 25, 2009, 5:18 pm
I cant take any of this seriously, from a supposed Professor of Chemistry for 33 years, to see "Fluoride is the smallest negative particle on the face of the earth" (26) quoted makes me cringe and wonder how much more of the rubbish is completely false. Also i agree with Joe Mamma reg. the bacteria producing acidic products and I'm please to see that not everyone has been suckered in by this garbage. Wake up people this is ridiculous
Posted on May 27, 2009, 5:04 am
You aren't required to take it serously. Everyone can get the information and decide for themselves.
Certainly, at the end of the day, when all the data are in, we shall see what the damage from fluoridation was.
Posted on June 19, 2009, 7:38 am
Thank you so much for your FANTASTIC website. I'm so sick and tired of reading dental lies on the internet. Your site was the only one I could find that was against traditional oral care and what you said only helped confirm what I knew to be true about fluoride.
My chiropractor is somewhat unorthodox and likes to overdose in natural supplements (which often is not life threatening) to see what additional benefits it can provide. He and I both use a immune booster called MMS that helps the body fight off virtually any disease you can think of. This powerful substance, taken at a whopping 15 drops per day--my chiropractor claims is so powerful that his amalgam fillings have fallen out.
Your proven theory that teeth can rebuild their enamel simply when clean, combined with a way to get rid of toxic amalgam (part mercury) fillings is absolutely ideal for optimum teeth and gum care.
Posted on November 1, 2009, 1:17 pm
This is incredibly interesting. I am interested in seeing before and after pictures of people who have built their enamel using these methods. Could you please post some?
Posted on June 26, 2010, 5:00 pm
Thank you so much for this wonderful website and all the great information that you provide. I have been using the bar soap on my teeth for a few months now and My teeth and gums are so beautiful. I wish the world would wake up and stop using fluoride and stop lisning to all the lies that the illuminate want us to believe.
Posted on May 26, 2012, 3:16 am
by Geelong Dentists
Great post. Let us keep our teeth healthy and fluoride free.
Posted on November 29, 2012, 8:59 am
Had you told me this about 8 years ago i would've considered it a load of hogwash. I've always been drinking tap water and never had any major issues. Until i moved to a new suburb and newly developed area in Western Australia. Now im not perfect, sometimes i did miss a day or two, but not slowly but rather rapidly wile living in that house my teeth decayed very quickly, despite increased efforts of brushing which actually made my situation worse having my teeth crumble and break at times i brushed! I was not the only person with this issue, my sister, partner at the time, neighbors and other members of public i talked to within this suburb had experience increased problems with their teeth.
Experience became that bad for me i was turned off brushing for a few weeks which actually kept my teeth from hurting during that time. Unfortunately however the damage was done. I now need 5 teeth completely ripped out, unfixable and the damage is generally unknown for these until its too late. I have already had one removed already. I lived in that house for close to two years, before moving there none of my teeth needing removing and cavities were easily fixable.
I urge anyone if you notice an increase when you move to a new location like the one ive experienced to get onto the local shire and council about it. This kind of treatment is not on. If the water was free maybe but for the ridiculous price and tax we pay as citizens on water rates i consider it an assault on public health.
I will be organizing hopefully in the near future a petition for the area i lived in to change the quantity or remove the fluoride from the water. There is probably nothing i can do to save my teeth now but i can at least save further problems for children and adults alike if i am successful in my campaign. Wish me luck, i will need it
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