Avoid fluoride to cure IBS

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Fluoride is not in any way shape or form a cause of IBS.

The "information" posted is almost certainly grossly exaggerated and possibly even fabricated to a point.

The only research I can turn up from this individual is that a *continual overdose* of fluoride can cause gut problems.

Posted by: flux on September 23, 2003 05:49 AM

 

Flux is wrong.
I fabricated nothing and exaggerated nothing.
It can only be malicious speculation on his part.

If you have a "cosy" image of Flourides consider this
The American "Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products" (5th. Edition) rates fluoride only slightly less toxic than arsenic, and more toxic than lead!
This made it a useful rat poison.
And yet their Environmental Protection Agency permits 250 times more Fluoride than lead, in water. Is this logical?
Moreover there is a goal of zero to be achieved for the, less poisonous, lead!

If we found that lead or arsenic hardened teeth would we add them to water?
Well Fluoride is just as toxic, with scores of proven detrimental effects on the body.
Why is Britain pursuing Fluoridation when medical/expert opinion is becoming more sceptical about it, and whilst Ireland is considering reversing Fluoridation and 98% of Europe is against it?
The Fluoride used has no drug approval; in fact it is an industrial waste, from fertiliser or smelting-plant chimney-scrubbers. It contains heavy metal impurities including Arsenic, Lead and Antimony as well as Uranium 238. And it is illegal to discharge it into the environment, or dump it at seaÂ…
A cynic might wonder if it's put in the water supply so that each time we wash the car, or flush the toilet we conveniently tip an industrial waste into the environment in a manner that is otherwise illegal.
It was one thing for Americans to solve a toxic waste problem in this manner, but to export this idea to tea-drinking nations like Britain and Ireland was downright irresponsible.

Recent Taiwanese research, published in "Nature" magazine found huge variations in the Fluoride content of different teas. This means control of the Fluoride dose is impossible. The concentration of Fluoride in tea could be as much as 41 times the optimum to reduce dental fillings! Even this dental "optimum" is not necessarily good for our general health. If you drink tea you are probably already getting too much Fluoride, as I certainly was. But we can choose to avoid tea we cannot avoid water.

Flouride is a thyroid suppressor, formally used to treat over-active thyroid glands. There are literally hundreds of studies on the thyroid-toxicity of fluoride. Furthermore, Chlorine (which is added to our water) and mercury (which is in our teeth-fillings) are also thyroid suppressors. The aluminium in tea enhances this effect. We seem to be conducting a multi-pronged assault on the thyroids of a whole generation and many people claim that a large percentage of the population is suffering from sub-clinically low thyroid function.
Research, published in 2001, also showed that fluoride calcified the vital pineal gland in the brain with potentially far-reaching consequences.

It would seem that the only argument for Fluoridation is the dental health argument.
But even this is hotly contested. I can do no better than refer you to a paper published in The Irish Medical Journal by Dr. Don MacAuley (Dental Surgeon). He was a supporter of Fluoridation but changed his mind only after looking deeper into Fluoride at the request of some of his patients. His dental-school training had not supplied these perspectives. He outlines some of the multitudinous toxic affects of this poison. (It seems naïve to me, to assume that a substance that has profound effects on teeth and bone would have no other effects on our bodies, particularly on the digestive tract through which it passes). This would not be so alarming were it not such a powerful poison. (Please find his paper attached here:- http://www.rvi.net/~fluoride/vul.htm )
Also Re IBS/Fluoride see
http://www.npwa.freeserve.co.uk/IBS.html

Resources:

http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/picture_i.html

http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/picture_i.html
http://64.177.90.157/science/
http://64.177.90.157/science/
http://directory.google.com/Top/Society/Issues/Health/Water_Treatment/Fluoridation/?il=1

Posted by: Andrew on September 30, 2003 08:10 PM

 

12 years ago I had an accident that broke teeth. This meant no hot drinks. I was suddenly totally free of the IBS that had plagued me daily for 10 years with bloating, tummy cramps and anal mucus.
When I was better, I tested, and retested various beveragesÂ…..and it was tea, that would bring back the cramps every time.
I researched tea to discover why it might cause IBS. I noted that tea contained more fluoride than any other edible plant. I found out also that a symptom of fluoride poisoning is gut pain and remembered that Canadian researchers blamed toothpaste for IBS. So, out went the fluoride toothpaste as well as the tea! I went from daily gut pain to total cure!
Now I have had 12 years free of IBSÂ….except for when I went to live in Feering, Essex for 9 months. The symptoms began to creep back, so I enquired of the local water supplier if they fluoridated. "No need" was the response "you have the highest natural fluoride in the country. I changed to bottled water and the IBS totally disappeared again. This may not amount to a full-blown, "double-blind, medical trial," but it did give "blind" corroborative proof. Because I did not have, and could not have, anticipated an IBS recurrence, since the water at Feering was not "officially" fluoridated.
I pride myself on a rigorously scientific mind so I was prepared to believe that it was only MY IBS that was caused by fluoride. I remained suspicious however, because the enormous rise in IBS was "coincident" with the rise in fluoride-ingestion from water, toothpastes, pesticides, non-stick cookware and mouthwashes.
Scientific methodology means we generally only find links we are looking for. Has anyone looked for a link between TOTAL Fluoride ingestion and IBS?

Posted by: L Harley on November 28, 2003 05:07 PM

 

Flux is wrong.
I fabricated nothing and exaggerated nothing.
It can only be malicious speculation on his part.

If you have a "cosy" image of Flourides consider this
The American "Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products" (5th. Edition) rates fluoride only slightly less toxic than arsenic, and more toxic than lead!
This made it a useful rat poison.
And yet their Environmental Protection Agency permits 250 times more Fluoride than lead, in water. Is this logical?
Moreover there is a goal of zero to be achieved for the, less poisonous, lead!

If we found that lead or arsenic hardened teeth would we add them to water?
Well Fluoride is just as toxic, with scores of proven detrimental effects on the body.
Why are we pursuing Fluoridation when medical/expert opinion is becoming more sceptical about it, and whilst Ireland is considering reversing Fluoridation and 98% of Europe is against it?
The Fluoride used has no drug approval; in fact it is an industrial waste, from fertiliser or smelting-plant chimney-scrubbers. It contains heavy metal impurities including Arsenic, Lead and Antimony as well as Uranium 238. And it is illegal to discharge it into the environment, or dump it at seaÂ…
A cynic might wonder if it's put in the water supply so that each time we wash the car, or flush the toilet we conveniently tip an industrial waste into the environment in a manner that is otherwise illegal.
It was one thing for Americans to solve a toxic waste problem in this manner, but to export this idea to tea-drinking nations like Britain and Ireland was downright irresponsible.

Recent Taiwanese research, published in "Nature" magazine found huge variations in the Fluoride content of different teas. This means control of the Fluoride dose is impossible. The concentration of Fluoride in tea could be as much as 41 times the optimum to reduce dental fillings! Even this dental "optimum" is not necessarily good for our general health. If you drink tea you are probably already getting too much Fluoride, as I certainly was. But we can choose to avoid tea we cannot avoid water.

Flouride is a thyroid suppressor, formally used to treat over-active thyroid glands. There are literally hundreds of studies on the thyroid-toxicity of fluoride. Furthermore, Chlorine (which is added to our water) and mercury (which is in our teeth-fillings) are also thyroid suppressors. The aluminium in tea enhances this effect. We seem to be conducting a multi-pronged assault on the thyroids of a whole generation and many people claim that a large percentage of the population is suffering from sub-clinically low thyroid function.
Research, published in 2001, also showed that fluoride calcified the vital pineal gland in the brain with potentially far-reaching consequences.

It would seem that the only argument for Fluoridation is the dental health argument.
But even this is hotly contested. I can do no better than refer you to a paper published in The Irish Medical Journal by Dr. Don MacAuley (Dental Surgeon). He was a supporter of Fluoridation but changed his mind only after looking deeper into Fluoride at the request of some of his patients. His dental-school training had not supplied these perspectives. He outlines some of the multitudinous toxic affects of this poison. (It seems naïve to me, to assume that a substance that has profound effects on teeth and bone would have no other effects on our bodies, particularly on the digestive tract through which it passes). This would not be so alarming were it not such a powerful poison. (Please find his paper attached here:- http://www.rvi.net/~fluoride/vul.htm )
Also Re IBS/Fluoride see
http://www.npwa.freeserve.co.uk/IBS.html

Resources:

http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/picture_i.html

http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/picture_i.html
http://64.177.90.157/science/
http://64.177.90.157/science/
http://directory.google.com/Top/Society/Issues/Health/Water_Treatment/Fluoridation/?il=1

Posted by: L Harley on January 8, 2004 03:11 PM

 

Flux is wrong.
I fabricated nothing and exaggerated nothing.
It can only be malicious speculation on his part.

If you have a "cosy" image of Flourides consider this
The American "Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products" (5th. Edition) rates fluoride only slightly less toxic than arsenic, and more toxic than lead!
This made it a useful rat poison.
And yet their Environmental Protection Agency permits 250 times more Fluoride than lead, in water. Is this logical?
Moreover there is a goal of zero to be achieved for the, less poisonous, lead!

If we found that lead or arsenic hardened teeth would we add them to water?
Well Fluoride is just as toxic, with scores of proven detrimental effects on the body.
Why is Britain pursuing Fluoridation when medical/expert opinion is becoming more sceptical about it, and whilst Ireland is considering reversing Fluoridation and 98% of Europe is against it?
The Fluoride used has no drug approval; in fact it is an industrial waste, from fertiliser or smelting-plant chimney-scrubbers. It contains heavy metal impurities including Arsenic, Lead and Antimony as well as Uranium 238. And it is illegal to discharge it into the environment, or dump it at seaÂ…
A cynic might wonder if it's put in the water supply so that each time we wash the car, or flush the toilet we conveniently tip an industrial waste into the environment in a manner that is otherwise illegal.
It was one thing for Americans to solve a toxic waste problem in this manner, but to export this idea to tea-drinking nations like Britain and Ireland was downright irresponsible.

Recent Taiwanese research, published in "Nature" magazine found huge variations in the Fluoride content of different teas. This means control of the Fluoride dose is impossible. The concentration of Fluoride in tea could be as much as 41 times the optimum to reduce dental fillings! Even this dental "optimum" is not necessarily good for our general health. If you drink tea you are probably already getting too much Fluoride, as I certainly was. But we can choose to avoid tea we cannot avoid water.

Flouride is a thyroid suppressor, formally used to treat over-active thyroid glands. There are literally hundreds of studies on the thyroid-toxicity of fluoride. Furthermore, Chlorine (which is added to our water) and mercury (which is in our teeth-fillings) are also thyroid suppressors. The aluminium in tea enhances this effect. We seem to be conducting a multi-pronged assault on the thyroids of a whole generation and many people claim that a large percentage of the population is suffering from sub-clinically low thyroid function.
Research, published in 2001, also showed that fluoride calcified the vital pineal gland in the brain with potentially far-reaching consequences.

It would seem that the only argument for Fluoridation is the dental health argument.
But even this is hotly contested. I can do no better than refer you to a paper published in The Irish Medical Journal by Dr. Don MacAuley (Dental Surgeon). He was a supporter of Fluoridation but changed his mind only after looking deeper into Fluoride at the request of some of his patients. His dental-school training had not supplied these perspectives. He outlines some of the multitudinous toxic affects of this poison. (It seems naïve to me, to assume that a substance that has profound effects on teeth and bone would have no other effects on our bodies, particularly on the digestive tract through which it passes). This would not be so alarming were it not such a powerful poison. (Please find his paper attached here:- http://www.rvi.net/~fluoride/vul.htm )
Also Re IBS/Fluoride see
http://www.npwa.freeserve.co.uk/IBS.html

Resources:

http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/picture_i.html

http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/picture_i.html
http://64.177.90.157/science/
http://64.177.90.157/science/
http://directory.google.com/Top/Society/Issues/Health/Water_Treatment/Fluoridation/?il=1

Posted by: L Harley on January 8, 2004 03:13 PM

 

The public is wonderfully tolerant. It forgives everything except genius.

Posted by: Matlaga Doug on January 10, 2004 05:19 AM

 

Flux is wrong.
I fabricated nothing and exaggerated nothing.
It can only be malicious speculation on his part.

If you have a "cosy" image of Flourides consider this
The American "Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products" (5th. Edition) rates fluoride only slightly less toxic than arsenic, and more toxic than lead!
This made it a useful rat poison.
And yet their Environmental Protection Agency permits 250 times more Fluoride than lead, in water. Is this logical?
Moreover there is a goal of zero to be achieved for the, less poisonous, lead!

If we found that lead or arsenic hardened teeth would we add them to water?
Well Fluoride is just as toxic, with scores of proven detrimental effects on the body.
Why is Britain pursuing Fluoridation when medical/expert opinion is becoming more sceptical about it, and whilst Ireland is considering reversing Fluoridation and 98% of Europe is against it?
The Fluoride used has no drug approval; in fact it is an industrial waste, from fertiliser or smelting-plant chimney-scrubbers. It contains heavy metal impurities including Arsenic, Lead and Antimony as well as Uranium 238. And it is illegal to discharge it into the environment, or dump it at seaÂ…
A cynic might wonder if it's put in the water supply so that each time we wash the car, or flush the toilet we conveniently tip an industrial waste into the environment in a manner that is otherwise illegal.
It was one thing for Americans to solve a toxic waste problem in this manner, but to export this idea to tea-drinking nations like Britain and Ireland was downright irresponsible.

Recent Taiwanese research, published in "Nature" magazine found huge variations in the Fluoride content of different teas. This means control of the Fluoride dose is impossible. The concentration of Fluoride in tea could be as much as 41 times the optimum to reduce dental fillings! Even this dental "optimum" is not necessarily good for our general health. If you drink tea you are probably already getting too much Fluoride, as I certainly was. But we can choose to avoid tea we cannot avoid water.

Flouride is a thyroid suppressor, formally used to treat over-active thyroid glands. There are literally hundreds of studies on the thyroid-toxicity of fluoride. Furthermore, Chlorine (which is added to our water) and mercury (which is in our teeth-fillings) are also thyroid suppressors. The aluminium in tea enhances this effect. We seem to be conducting a multi-pronged assault on the thyroids of a whole generation and many people claim that a large percentage of the population is suffering from sub-clinically low thyroid function.
Research, published in 2001, also showed that fluoride calcified the vital pineal gland in the brain with potentially far-reaching consequences.

It would seem that the only argument for Fluoridation is the dental health argument.
But even this is hotly contested. I can do no better than refer you to a paper published in The Irish Medical Journal by Dr. Don MacAuley (Dental Surgeon). He was a supporter of Fluoridation but changed his mind only after looking deeper into Fluoride at the request of some of his patients. His dental-school training had not supplied these perspectives. He outlines some of the multitudinous toxic affects of this poison. (It seems naïve to me, to assume that a substance that has profound effects on teeth and bone would have no other effects on our bodies, particularly on the digestive tract through which it passes). This would not be so alarming were it not such a powerful poison. (Please find his paper attached here:- http://www.rvi.net/~fluoride/vul.htm )
Also Re IBS/Fluoride see
http://www.npwa.freeserve.co.uk/IBS.html

Resources:

http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/picture_i.html

http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/picture_i.html
http://64.177.90.157/science/
http://64.177.90.157/science/
http://directory.google.com/Top/Society/Issues/Health/Water_Treatment/Fluoridation/?il=1

Posted by: on November 11, 2004 04:18 AM

 

Flux is wrong.
I fabricated nothing and exaggerated nothing.
It can only be malicious speculation on his part.

If you have a "cosy" image of Flourides consider this
The American "Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products" (5th. Edition) rates fluoride only slightly less toxic than arsenic, and more toxic than lead!
This made it a useful rat poison.
And yet their Environmental Protection Agency permits 250 times more Fluoride than lead, in water. Is this logical?
Moreover there is a goal of zero to be achieved for the, less poisonous, lead!

If we found that lead or arsenic hardened teeth would we add them to water?
Well Fluoride is just as toxic, with scores of proven detrimental effects on the body.
Why is Britain pursuing Fluoridation when medical/expert opinion is becoming more sceptical about it, and whilst Ireland is considering reversing Fluoridation and 98% of Europe is against it?
The Fluoride used has no drug approval; in fact it is an industrial waste, from fertiliser or smelting-plant chimney-scrubbers. It contains heavy metal impurities including Arsenic, Lead and Antimony as well as Uranium 238. And it is illegal to discharge it into the environment, or dump it at seaÂ…
A cynic might wonder if it's put in the water supply so that each time we wash the car, or flush the toilet we conveniently tip an industrial waste into the environment in a manner that is otherwise illegal.
It was one thing for Americans to solve a toxic waste problem in this manner, but to export this idea to tea-drinking nations like Britain and Ireland was downright irresponsible.

Recent Taiwanese research, published in "Nature" magazine found huge variations in the Fluoride content of different teas. This means control of the Fluoride dose is impossible. The concentration of Fluoride in tea could be as much as 41 times the optimum to reduce dental fillings! Even this dental "optimum" is not necessarily good for our general health. If you drink tea you are probably already getting too much Fluoride, as I certainly was. But we can choose to avoid tea we cannot avoid water.

Flouride is a thyroid suppressor, formally used to treat over-active thyroid glands. There are literally hundreds of studies on the thyroid-toxicity of fluoride. Furthermore, Chlorine (which is added to our water) and mercury (which is in our teeth-fillings) are also thyroid suppressors. The aluminium in tea enhances this effect. We seem to be conducting a multi-pronged assault on the thyroids of a whole generation and many people claim that a large percentage of the population is suffering from sub-clinically low thyroid function.
Research, published in 2001, also showed that fluoride calcified the vital pineal gland in the brain with potentially far-reaching consequences.

It would seem that the only argument for Fluoridation is the dental health argument.
But even this is hotly contested. I can do no better than refer you to a paper published in The Irish Medical Journal by Dr. Don MacAuley (Dental Surgeon). He was a supporter of Fluoridation but changed his mind only after looking deeper into Fluoride at the request of some of his patients. His dental-school training had not supplied these perspectives. He outlines some of the multitudinous toxic affects of this poison. (It seems naïve to me, to assume that a substance that has profound effects on teeth and bone would have no other effects on our bodies, particularly on the digestive tract through which it passes). This would not be so alarming were it not such a powerful poison. (Please find his paper attached here:- http://www.rvi.net/~fluoride/vul.htm )
Also Re IBS/Fluoride see
http://www.npwa.freeserve.co.uk/IBS.html

Resources:

http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/picture_i.html

http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/picture_i.html
http://64.177.90.157/science/
http://64.177.90.157/science/
http://directory.google.com/Top/Society/Issues/Health/Water_Treatment/Fluoridation/?il=1

Posted by: Scott on January 5, 2005 11:29 PM

 

Flux is wrong.
I fabricated nothing and exaggerated nothing.
It can only be malicious speculation on his part.

If you have a "cosy" image of Flourides consider this
The American "Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products" (5th. Edition) rates fluoride only slightly less toxic than arsenic, and more toxic than lead!
This made it a useful rat poison.
And yet their Environmental Protection Agency permits 250 times more Fluoride than lead, in water. Is this logical?
Moreover there is a goal of zero to be achieved for the, less poisonous, lead!

If we found that lead or arsenic hardened teeth would we add them to water?
Well Fluoride is just as toxic, with scores of proven detrimental effects on the body.
Why is Britain pursuing Fluoridation when medical/expert opinion is becoming more sceptical about it, and whilst Ireland is considering reversing Fluoridation and 98% of Europe is against it?
The Fluoride used has no drug approval; in fact it is an industrial waste, from fertiliser or smelting-plant chimney-scrubbers. It contains heavy metal impurities including Arsenic, Lead and Antimony as well as Uranium 238. And it is illegal to discharge it into the environment, or dump it at seaÂ…
A cynic might wonder if it's put in the water supply so that each time we wash the car, or flush the toilet we conveniently tip an industrial waste into the environment in a manner that is otherwise illegal.
It was one thing for Americans to solve a toxic waste problem in this manner, but to export this idea to tea-drinking nations like Britain and Ireland was downright irresponsible.

Recent Taiwanese research, published in "Nature" magazine found huge variations in the Fluoride content of different teas. This means control of the Fluoride dose is impossible. The concentration of Fluoride in tea could be as much as 41 times the optimum to reduce dental fillings! Even this dental "optimum" is not necessarily good for our general health. If you drink tea you are probably already getting too much Fluoride, as I certainly was. But we can choose to avoid tea we cannot avoid water.

Flouride is a thyroid suppressor, formally used to treat over-active thyroid glands. There are literally hundreds of studies on the thyroid-toxicity of fluoride. Furthermore, Chlorine (which is added to our water) and mercury (which is in our teeth-fillings) are also thyroid suppressors. The aluminium in tea enhances this effect. We seem to be conducting a multi-pronged assault on the thyroids of a whole generation and many people claim that a large percentage of the population is suffering from sub-clinically low thyroid function.
Research, published in 2001, also showed that fluoride calcified the vital pineal gland in the brain with potentially far-reaching consequences.

It would seem that the only argument for Fluoridation is the dental health argument.
But even this is hotly contested. I can do no better than refer you to a paper published in The Irish Medical Journal by Dr. Don MacAuley (Dental Surgeon). He was a supporter of Fluoridation but changed his mind only after looking deeper into Fluoride at the request of some of his patients. His dental-school training had not supplied these perspectives. He outlines some of the multitudinous toxic affects of this poison. (It seems naïve to me, to assume that a substance that has profound effects on teeth and bone would have no other effects on our bodies, particularly on the digestive tract through which it passes). This would not be so alarming were it not such a powerful poison. (Please find his paper attached here:- http://www.rvi.net/~fluoride/vul.htm )
Also Re IBS/Fluoride see
http://www.npwa.freeserve.co.uk/IBS.html

Resources:

http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/picture_i.html

http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/picture_i.html
http://64.177.90.157/science/
http://64.177.90.157/science/
http://directory.google.com/Top/Society/Issues/Health/Water_Treatment/Fluoridation/?il=1

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