Swedish Science Dissident Proposes New View of Red Shift, Global Warming

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Here is an e-mail exchange about this article, which I add as an update - August 2004:

It starts with a message from someone who calls himself Pyotr Zumwalt.

Dear Sir,

I reference the following web page:
swedish_science_dissident_proposes_new_view_of_red_shift_global_warming

Ingvar Astrand is not a scientific dissident.  He is a victim of mental illness.  You do him a very great disservice by encouraging him.  You do a very great disservice to genuine "scientific dissidents" as well.  Finally, you utterly destroy your own credibility with anyone who has encountered Mr. Astrand's disconnected drivel.

A case in point: Mr. Astrand insists that sounds decrease their frequency over distance.  Has this been your experience?

yrs, Pyotr Zumwalt

My reply, which I copied to Astrand:

From: "Sepp (Josef) Hasslberger"
To: "Paula Atreides"
CC: ingvar_astrand@***
Subject: Re: dissidence
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004

Dear Pyotr Zumwalt,

thank you for your e-mail. I am rather suspicious of anyone who would question someone else's sanity rather than attack the faults in their theory. While I cannot say that Astrand is correct in what he says, I believe he has every right to state his convictions.

If you want to dispute what you call Astrand's "disconnected drivel", you can contact him directly or publish your views in a similar forum as he does.

Kind regards
Sepp Hasslberger

And Ingvar Astrand's comment, with some links to an article on a discussion group and to his own site:

From: Sven Ã…strand
To: sepp@***
Subject: Re: dissidence => thanks for your integrity
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004

My friend Sepp!

Thanks for your integrity. As you understand my discovery is embarrassing for the believers in the present dogmas called quantum physics, relativity and big bang and so on.

I can tell you many similar stories and experiences like that one.

One is that at a Swedish radio program from a book trade exhibition an editor of scientific books asked for manuscripts that was critical or analysing to some subject in science. I send a synopsis and after some months I phoned and asked why I haven't got any answers. The editor then told me that my synopsis was sent to the one of the most famous physicists in Sweden. He had said that he got a fright hiccup when he read my synopsis and he recommended the editor to refuse my writings.

A short time thereafter this physicist had together with two scientist journalists and a psychiatrist published a large article in Sweden's biggest daily newspaper about persons that was critical to the established science that must be mentally sick. The same conclusion that this furious writers of the e-mail you got. It is a way for the establishment to defend their position when they have no relevant arguments.

I can tell you that many physicists in Sweden and abroad agree that my theory is right, but they are afraid to say it officially. Sweden's most famous professor of theoretical physics (Tor Ragnar Geerholm - today emeritus) said during a short talk: "of course your discovery and theory are right". I also get more new invitations to conferences.

I invited Anders Barany to a seminar I held. He is professor in physics and he was then secretary in the Nobel Committee. He also said that I am right but he could not come to my lecture because of his position. Also Sweden's most prominent professor in astrophysics (now emeritus) and then the editor of "Populär Astronomi" Gunnar Leander-Larson agreed that my theory was right but he didn't dare publish it because it would cause him trouble with his colleagues about the consensus. Another professor in mathematics said that my theory is so self-evident that it could not be right because then it would have been discovered and established long before.

I have held lectures in Sweden before many professors in astronomy and astrophysics and physics. They have been very impressed and told me that my discovery is right and my theory very intelligible.

The background to this furious man was that I need to discuss and get serious questions about my theory, in order to develop my explanations if there is something unclear. I find a discussion-group called Bright, and jumped into their discussion about Hawking's black holes where he has changed his mind. I told them that it was a help-hypothesis to explain the quasars‚ apparent enormous energy and that it is simply explained by the well known thermodynamic laws of Wien and Stefan-Boltzmann. I told them that i soon will publish my unified theory of physics on my home site.

This made many of them upset and they asked me for immediate evidence. Then I wrote a short mathematical derivation on a Physics Forum, which was deleted by the mentor. By an e-mail I begged the mentor to publish it and it was moved to another thread where you can read it at http://physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=36805.

No one had any criticism against my discovery or derivation. But they said that it was impossible, they were arrogant and they called me a crackpot. After a time this furious man said that if this entropy elongation is general it must be applied even for sound waves. There have been discussions at a NPA discussion-group about this question where they agreed the common experiences that you hear even sound waves as lower frequency proportional to the distance. I remember they agreed that a tractor when it was driven far away on the field sounds with lower frequency compared with when it was driven near.

My experience is that the thunder is more dull at far distance. Well this is a good argument for me to measure by some instrument to get evidence. But I don't think this will help against the dogmatic fundamentalists.

Within about fourteen days I must place my article (about 20 pages) on my home site, because I am lecturing on my seminar in Stockholm at 25 August. Have a look at my home page then www.theuniphysics.info

As you understand I have lots of interesting and funny stories for a biography. I am only disappointed that my English languish isn't good enough.

The conference in Denver was successful. I can tell you shortly that the self-regulating carbon dioxid-level is caused by the density (weight) of the carbon dioxide. When the level is over maximum, carbon-dioxide is pressured down into the oceans where the carbon-dioxide is heavier than water at about 40 atmospheres pressure at about 4000 meters depth, where it is sinking to the bottom and into the sediment layers of shells and sand. Well, it is more complex than that, which I will tell you later.

With friendly respect
Ingvar

Posted by: Sepp on August 2, 2004 05:33 PM

 

As honored as I am by Mr. Astrand's identification of myself as a "consensus scientist", I feel obligated to point out that I am neither a scientist nor have ever claimed to be. I will admit to being an enthusiastic reader of all kinds of science; but I have no connection to the scientific establishment whatsoever.

Posted by: Pyotr Zumwalt on August 23, 2004 08:08 PM

 

Mr. Astrand has attributed the following statement to myself:

'After a time this furious man said that if this entropy elongation is general it must be applied even for sound waves.'

This was Mr. Astrand's assertion, not mine. Mr. Astrands claim that I said this is false. I merely refuted him. I would appreciate it if this statement were allowed to remain here, unlike my previous objection.

Pyotr Zumwalt

Posted by: Pyotr Zumwalt on August 23, 2004 09:29 PM

 

Here is a recent e-mail exchange regarding comments on this article. I am closing the article to further comments as of now, 25 August 2004:

Dear Sepp,

I object to your allowing Ingvar's invective to stand, while selectively posting my own correspondence. As Ingvar has attributed statements to myself that I did not make, as well as unjustified attributions of "fury", I would appreciate it if you either allowed the entire exchange to be posted, or removed Ingvar's long posting.   I assume that you wish to deal honestly.

I applaud your statement: "I am rather suspicious of anyone who would question someone else's sanity rather than attack the faults in their theory." Is your suspicion also invoked when a man claims to have overturned more than a century of established science?

Cordially,
Pyotr Zumwalt, which is indeed a nom de plume

Dear Pyotr,

you notice I left your latest comments standing. This is because I do not see them to be offensive.

Conversely, I also do not see invective in Ingvar Astrand's comment, which I posted. Yes, I do want to deal honestly, but I do not allow emotional exchanges to cloud the content.

Kind regards
Sepp

Posted by: Sepp on August 25, 2004 03:56 PM

 

From: Ingvar Ã…strand
Subject: No Peer Review can stop this now
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006

Hej Sepp,

Thanks for your proposed links that are almost always interesting.

Do you remember this Einstein-evangelist - Quoted below:

... Mr. Astrand insists that sounds decrease their frequency over distance.  Has this been your experience?

yes, Pyotr Zumwalt

Now I have the answer:

I have made a new interesting experiment with sound waves, an experiment that verifies the entropy-law that I have discovered and derived from observations and experiments.

This new experiment explains that the mechanism for energy that is dissipating toward equilibrium is the same and general for electrodynamics, hydrodynamics and now also aerodynamics.

I made the experiment in February 2005, and had the sound signals on my tape recorder in about one year. I contacted (many times) sound expert people at universities and technichal high schools if they could refer to a frequency-analyzing program -- but no one was interested.

So, in January I found on internet a new program for frequency analyzing for 10 days free test.

As you can see on the Sound-Spectrogram.PDF (link no longer active), I was right: sound's frequencies decrease over distance.

Besides, my entropy theory has given me an idea for an important construction for telecom.

Yes, I have applied for patent.

When (if) I have sold this invention, the priesthood of scientists cannot stop this new reality of physics that will imply a new intelligent paradigm for a new intelligible physics.

Ingvar, Sweden
http://www.theuniphysics.info

Posted by: Sepp on June 9, 2006 03:08 PM

 

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Posted by: mperella on October 3, 2006 08:03 AM

 

Well Mr. Ingvar i might say that what you wrote is very interesting and i might say that i agree with your theory. In my oppinion global warming is one HUGE propaganda from wich someone makes alot of money on account of all humanity, to be more precise another form of making people scared or a way of control that certain people like to convince people.
Thank you alot for writing this and letting me know that i'm not the only person that think what you stated above.

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