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February 16, 2005

New Zealand: Ministry Resorts To 'Meningococcal Monsters' - Media Silent

New Zealand's Health Ministry has described a meningococcal bug - MeNZB - as a scary monster that must be eradicated by immediate vaccination of more than a million children with an experimental vaccine.

Looking at the actual statistics (see graphic) we find that the virus has infected only eight people - causing no deaths - among New Zealanders living in the Bay of Plenty area in 2004 and that the number of cases has been on a steep downtrend for two years. This is in sharp contrast with the ministry's public statements.

Ron Law, an independent risk and policy analyst, charges that the ministry is dishonest in its promotion of the vaccine with fear tactics.

Ministry Resorts To Meningococcal Monsters

Ron Law
Independent Risk & Policy Analyst


"It's a sad day for public health policy in New Zealand when officials substitute monsters for science in promoting non-evidenced-based policy," says independent risk & policy analyst Ron Law.

"Resorting to emotion and hyperbole, such as, "Parents Urged To Immunise Against Meningococcal Monster," "move fast," and "scary" suggests that the Ministry of Health has taken advice from the Used Vacuum Cleaners Marketing Association," says Ron Law, 'It's a shame they aren't telling the public the truth so that they can make an informed choice."

For example, the Ministry's press release [http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/GE0502/S00054.htm] says

Western Bay Primary Health Organisation chairman and family doctor John Gemming says the Bay of Plenty's infection statistics are high. "The epidemic doesn't seem to be diminishing and this vaccination is our only chance of controlling it."

The phrase "Doesn't seem to be diminishing," is at odds with the BOPDHB Medical Officer of Health's comments in their latest newsletter which says,

"In 2003 New Zealand had 544 cases of meningococcal disease. In 2004 there were 340 cases, a reduction of 37.5%." and 

"In 2003 the Bay of Plenty DHB area had 50 cases, with 13 in 2004, a reduction of 74%. So at face value there was a marked reduction in cases in BOPDHB last year compared to the previous year."

The fact is that numbers of cases of meningococcal disease caused by the epidemic strain targeted by the MeNZB(tm) vaccine have declined to 8 in 2004, down from 38 at peak levels. That's a consistent decline of 78% ... and yet the Ministry's press release says, "The epidemic doesn't seem to be diminishing."

The facts say otherwise ... see graph

"When will the Ministry of Health stop this public health charade? When will the media challenge the Ministry of Health's monster lies?" asks Ron Law.


See also:

MeNZB Quick Guide (PDF)

Evelyn Pringle: Get Mercury Out Of Vaccines - NOW!
Thursday, 17 March 2005 SCOOP NZ
Mercury-based, thimerosal, used as a preservative in childhood vaccines until recently, is now being blamed for a host of neurological problems, including autism, ADD, ADHD, and other learning disabilities. The number of children with these problems can vary greatly depending on who you listen to, some experts say there are about eight hundred-thousand learning disabled children in the US, while others put the number as high as eight million, according to Dr Jay Gordon.

Red Flags Weekly: Vaccines and Immune Suppression

Meningococcal Vax Campaign Starts Derailing
Friday, 20 May 2005
Ron Law & Barbara Sumner Burstyn
"The Minister of Health has confirmed that none of the five deaths acknowledged as being due to meningococcal disease so far this year could have been prevented by the MeNZB(tm) vaccination programme," say risk & policy analyst Ron Law, and writer/researcher Barbara Sumner Burstyn.

Dr Stewart Reid's Competing Interests
The Ministry failed to disclose Dr Reid's role as a Chiron Corporation MeNZB clinical researcher at the same time as advising the New Zealand Meningococcal Management Team on licensure matters as an independent expert.

 


posted by Sepp Hasslberger on Wednesday February 16 2005
updated on Friday June 26 2009

URL of this article:
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2005/02/16/new_zealand_ministry_resorts_to_meningococcal_monsters_media_silent.htm

 


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Readers' Comments


The Government should stop this vaccine being given out to people and use the money more wisely ie hospitals. After reading some information on MEnzb there is no way my child will get this vaccine. Go Ron Law

Posted by: Sarnia West on February 21, 2005 10:45 PM

 


Ron Law and Barbara Sumner-Burstyn are my heros and I thank them for being basically the only journalists in the country with the balls to tell the truth re vaccination... I send there articles on to the big news agencies with letters asking them to have the same balls ... Good on you if enough of us put the pressure on we might just get the word out enough to make a greater majority go no to the MENZb vacc !

Thanks for digging deep into the lies this government tells !!

Posted by: aly cook on March 3, 2005 04:46 AM

 


Hey I found this posted on a womens site....I dont know its origins... I wonder is there a story here for exposing IMAC as funded by Pharmacutical companies !! ?? .............................Of course there are conflicts of interest, but these are seldom brought to light. Take the Immunisation Advisory Centre, based in Auckland Medical School. They are vociferously pro-vaccine, and employ several doctors and nurses as full-time and part-time staff. Their director Dr. Nikki Turner is often called upon by the media for her opinion, and is often on the TV news, warning about the childhood illnesses, and trying to allay any doubts about vaccines. Nearly everyone assumes that they are part of the Ministry of Health. Sometimes the MoH will even refer to them as another sound source of advice. Turner will sometimes point out that they are actually part of Auckland University, and nothing to do with the government. But not many people know that they are indirectly funded by the Vaccine manufacturers. Turner herself has admitted that they are part of the Goodfellow Unit in the Auckland Medical School, which gets very large grants from quite a few of the big vaccine-making corporations. I would be very surprised if Auckland University would be paying IMAC's salaries if they weren't getting such largesse from companies like GSK and Merck. Turner and co. are not involved in teaching, nor should I imagine in serious original research; the sole purpose of the Immunisation Advisory Centre appears to be promotion of the consumption of commercial products - vaccines - and educating the public about the dangers of childhood illnesses; which is a peculiar aim for an institution of higher learning, with an alleged allegiance to independant research, to have when you think about it. It shows how tainted with commercial interests universities are these days.


Posted by: Aly Cook on March 3, 2005 09:45 PM

 


A further comment received from New Zealand:

Meningococcal Data Highlights MeNZB(tm) Concerns

Ron Law
Barbara Sumner Burstyn

The release of the bacterial types that have caused five recent cases of meningococcal disease in the Wellington region in recent weeks highlights that none of them would have been prevented by the current MeNZB(tm) vaccination programme.

Only one case was caused by the so-called epidemic strain targeted by the MeNZB(tm) vaccine, and that was in the Chiron scientist working at ESR. It is widely believed within ESR circles that the scientist acquired the original infection overseas, making a lie of the claim that the epidemic strain is unique to New Zealand; it is not.

Medical Officer of Health Annette Nesdale is reported as saying, "though it was unusual that just one case was caused by the epidemic strain, it was important to look at the bigger picture of meningococcal disease and not just the small number of recent cases."

This argument has clearly been written by a PR spin doctor as it was only a week or two ago that these cases were being used to support the need for the MeNZB(tm) vaccine.

The fact is that none of these cases would have been prevented by the MeNZB(tm) vaccine, even if it works, and neither would any of the three deaths confirmed so far this year.

It is interesting to note that Dr Nesdale is claiming that in the past three years only 67 per cent of confirmed cases of meningococcal disease in the Wellington region had been of the B epidemic strain. This would suggest that perhaps as few as 50 per cent of confirmed cases in the past 12 months have been of the epidemic strain highlighting that the epidemic is well and truly declining naturally in the Wellington region--before the roll out of the MeNZB(tm) vaccine.

Dr Nesdale should disclose to the public how many cases due to all strains there have been in each of the past three years in the Wellington region. The public would then realise that the epidemic is waning naturally and that use of total case numbers to promote the need for a strain specific vaccine is a cruel hoax.

Posted by: Sepp on April 22, 2005 01:11 PM

 


received by email on 24 April 2005:

Meningococcal vaccination increases risk in under 5 year olds

Ron Law & Barbara Sumner Burstyn

Twelve years after the event, it emerges that reassurances of "Trust us, this meningococcal vaccine will protect your children" has been proven to be fallacious. This paper demonstrates that the meningococcal vaccine used in Canada actually increased the risks for under two year olds by 390%, and in 2-5 year olds by 75%...

What faith can New Zealand parents have in the MeNZB(tm) vaccine when the Health Research Council's standing safety monitoring committee has been replaced by a group of hand chosen individuals with no pharmaco-vigilance expertise [as acknowledged by both the Ministry of Health and the Health Research Council last week] and including selected colleagues and close contacts of MeNZB(tm) researchers and advisors?

Why has the Ministry of Health interfered with the normal practice of the Health Research Council?

- - -

(www.nursingtimes.net/)

posted on 21 04 2005

Vaccination against meningitis in children under two may make them more susceptible to the disease rather than conferring protection, according to a new study.

The authors of research published in Clinical Infectious Diseases say that serogroup C meningococcal polysaccharide vaccine confers a high level of protection among school-age children, but that children under two remain susceptible to infection following vaccination.

They found that, during the first 2 years after immunization, vaccine effectiveness was 95.0% among those age 6 years or older; efficacy was 77.3% during the following 3 years.

For those age 2 to 5 years, the vaccine was 62% effective during the first 2 years, but the estimate of effectiveness was negative during the next 3 years.

For those younger than 2 years, the estimate of effectiveness was -7.9% during the first period and highly negative (-390.5%) during the second period.

"The possibility of increased susceptibility to serogroup C meningococcal disease resulting from administration of a polysaccharide vaccine at a young age cannot be excluded," say the authors, suggesting that "once the protective antibodies have disappeared, the inhibition of the serological response could result in greater susceptibility to invasive disease".

Reference: De Wals P et al (2005) Effectiveness of Serogroup C Meningococcal Polysaccharide Vaccine: Results from a Case-Control Study in Quebec Clin Infect Dis 40 (8) 1116-1122

Posted by: Sepp on April 24, 2005 09:13 PM

 


Received by email 11 May 2005

Ministry Tells Meningococcal Monsters in The Press

by Ron Law & Barbara Sumner Burstyn

The Ministry of Health's response to a letter to the editor about the experimental MeNZB(tm) vaccine in Wednesday's Press is nothing more than science fiction," says risk & policy analyst Ron Law and writer/researcher Barbara Sumner Burstyn.

Dr O'Hallahan's letter of reply in Christchurch's The Press implies that the MeNZB(tm) vaccine will prevent 3,500 cases, 190 deaths and 600 under 20 year olds being permanently disabled.

Let's do some simple maths.

In 2003 and 2004 there were 9 deaths confirmed as being due to the epidemic strain of bacteria targeted by the MeNZB(tm) vaccine (5 & 4 respectively). Maybe 50% of these were in under 20 year olds making a total of 2-3 per year. Over 10 years that is 20-30 deaths that could, theoretically, be prevented if the vaccine works. To get a figure of 190 deaths Dr O'Hallahan has resorted to plucking figures from somewhere and projecting that over more than 10 years. That is pure science fiction. The maximum confirmed number of deaths in any one year in all age groups due to the epidemic strain of meningococcal disease is 17.

Based on the evidence available to us, none of the five meningococcal deaths so far this year could have been prevented by the current MeNZB(tm) vaccine program.

Dr O'Hallahan's 190 deaths divided by 3,500 cases gives a case fatality rate of 5.4%. The death rate for all types of meningococcal disease for the past three years has been less than half that figure and is falling. The deaths rate for the epidemic strain is approximately 1.5%.

Dr O'Hallahan states that "the vaccine has proved to be effective in clinical trials..." This statement is made knowing that it is totally false and that the trials did not establish either efficacy or effectiveness.

It is sad that the Ministry of Health has to resort to science fiction and scare-mongering to gain public support for an experimental drug masquerading as a panacea.

"This apparent creation of data provides further evidence to support our call for a Royal Commission of Inquiry," says Barbara Sumner Burstyn.

Law and Sumner Burstyn will shortly be releasing further damning evidence regarding unethical issues surrounding the trial and approval processes used to get the MeNZB(tm) vaccine licensed.


Posted by: Sepp on May 11, 2005 11:57 AM

 



Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:38:01 +1200
From: Ron Law juderon@...


Ministry Tells Meningococcal Monster on Close-up
Ron Law & Barbara Sumner Burtsyn

"The fact that the Ministry of Health told Close-up viewers a lie regarding 2004 meningococcal disease cases is further evidence that the Ministry is misleading the public over meningoccocal disease" say risk & policy analyst, Ron Law, and writer/researcher Barbara Sumner Burstyn.

This is the closest the Ministry of Health has come to being held accountable publicly, and their spokesperson not only denies knowledge of death rates, but then falsely claims that 2004 was the second highest number of cases since the epidemic began.

The facts, as noted in the Meningococcal Gold Rush, second edition, are that 2004 case numbers were the lowest in over a decade, and death numbers are the lowest since the first year of the epidemic in 1992.

Susan Wood should get Dr Mark Jacobs back on her programme as indicated on Friday and ask him the following questions.

Can the MOH confirm that the number of cases due to all types of meningococcal disease notified in 2004 was the lowest since 1994 as stated by the authors of The Meningococcal Gold Rush?

Can the MOH confirm that the number of deaths due to all types of meningococcal disease notified in 2004 was the lowest since 1992 as stated by the authors of The Meningococcal Gold Rush?

If the above statements are true, why did the MOH tell the public on national TV on Friday night that the number of cases was the second highest ever recorded?

Susan Wood should also ask Dr Jacobs if he can confirm that the death rate for the epidemic strain of meningococcal disease in 5-19 year olds in 2004 was 1.1%? If this is so, why has the MOH provided the media with data saying that 5% of all children who get the disease will die?

Susan Wood should ask Dr Jacobs if the information that the Ministry of Health has been giving the media and health professionals that 5% of children who get meningococcal disease will die, and that 5-20% will be brain damaged or lose limbs is New Zealand data or from overseas.

We believe that the Ministry of Health has promoted a campaign of fear and coercion and outline this at http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0505/S00352.htm.

We believe that the MOH statements on Close-up should be examined by a Royal Commission of Inquiry, in conjunction with numerous other misrepresentations, to determine whether they were made out of ignorance or as part of an orchestrated litany of lies outlined in the Meningococcal Gold Rush, Second Edition.

Posted by: Sepp on June 6, 2005 10:21 AM

 


In response to the chat thread;
Posted on March 3, 2005 04:46 AM
by aly cook


For the record:

The Immunisation Advisory Centre (IMAC) is part of the University of Auckland, based in the Department of General Practice and Primary Health Care. The Goodfellow Unit is a postgraduate GP training unit within the Department of General Practice and Primary Health Care which IMAC is affiliated with.
IMAC has at times accepted small grants from vaccine provider companies for the express purposes of supporting quality in general practices (such as improving the management of the 'cold chain' - keeping vaccines at the right temperature), and health professional education such as sponsorship for conferences. The amount of grants is, and has always been, less than 0.5% of IMAC's total budget, and no IMAC staff is paid by any pharmaceutical/vaccine industry company.

IMAC staff, including Dr Nikki Turner, are involved in a large amount of teaching throughout the country - both postgraduate and undergraduate. Furthermore, IMAC conducts research and has published original scientific articles on a range of immunisation related issues.

Dr. Nikki Turner
Director
Immunisation Advisory Centre
University of Auckland


Posted by: Natalie Desmond on June 8, 2005 12:07 AM

 


NZ Meningococcal Vaccination - Update 9 June 2005:

Evidence Shows MeNZB(tm) Vaccine Is Not Working
Ron Law & Barbara Sumner Burstyn


"The Ministry of Health press release this afternoon is riddled with faith and false information," say risk & policy analyst Ron Law and writer/researcher Barbara Sumner Burstyn

1. The heading demonstrates faith... the MOH says that the vaccine WILL work... this is a confession that they have no evidence that it is working. In fact, the evidence to date from Counties Manukau as shown on our Meningococcal Gold Rush, Second Edition, clearly shows it is not. The decline that had begun before the MeNZB(tm) vaccine was rolled out continues... with no increase in the rate of decline that would be expected if the vaccine was working. Even the Ministry's principal meningococcal advisor, Dr Reid, states that the efficacy of the vaccine and the duration of protection following vaccination are, at present, unknown.

2. Claims on radio that there have been 15 cases in Waikato this year are meaningless without knowing what types they are. In fact, the MOH will know that many have not been due to the epidemic strain of bacteria targeted by the MeNZB vaccine. The Ministry should publish the breakdown of cases in the whole of New Zealand.

3. Despite the Ministry of Health's rhetoric, Phase III trials are the norm for new types of vaccines. When these trials have been established then trials demonstrating equivalence have been used for subsequent variations. If phase III trials were not the norm, why did Chiron undertake phase III trials for its Menjugate C vaccine in the USA before abandoning its application for license?

4. The Ministry claims that the MeNZB vaccine is protective against the epidemic strain of meningococcal disease and yet its own expert committee [MAAC] was concerned that there was no efficacy data; Dr Jane O'Hallahan has stated that the vaccine would be rolled out "without efficacy data," and the MOH principal adviser has recently stated, "The efficacy of the vaccine and the duration of protection following vaccination are, at present, unknown." The Ministry's statement of protection is junk science.

5. The Ministry states that about 75% of all cases of meningococcal disease are due to the epidemic strain, and yet a spread sheet circulated privately to Pro-MeNZB health workers last week reveal that since 1997 only 50% of cases have been confirmed as being of the epidemic strain and barely a third of all cases have been confirmed as being of the epidemic strain in under twenty year olds.

6. The Ministry says "The vaccine was licensed under The Medicines Act under Section 23. This section enables a license under provisional consent where the data provided meets Medsafe requirements on both safety and protection grounds and there is a clinical need for the vaccine in New Zealand."

This statement is totally wrong and can only have been made to try and muddy the debate. Section 23 is designed for exactly the opposite type of evidence... where there is insufficient evidence to warrant a proper licence.

7. If the Ministry of Health has worked with Medsafe (a division of the MOH) to ensure the consent form and other information prepared for the public met all requirements for ensuring people had the information they required to enable them to make an informed choice about whether to vaccinate, why did Medsafe write to Dr Jane O'Hallahan, head of the MeNZB vaccine programme, on August 3 2004, after the vaccine was licensed and launched, to instruct her to include the Minister's expert committee's concerns about lack of efficacy data in the consent form? Why are parents still not being told about those concerns, despite the fact that telling parents was a condition of provisional license?

8. If the Ministry of Health makes all information, including highly technical information prepared for doctors and nurses, available to the public through the www.immunise.moh.govt.nz website, why has it not published its report on the epidemiology of meningococcal disease in New Zealand in 2004, despite it being finished and distributed to selected health professionals in April 2005?

Why has it circulated privately to pro MeNZB health workers publications and databases that the Minister has declined to release under the official information act?

Why is the Ministry of Health knowingly feeding the public false information about the number of cases and deaths due to the epidemic strain of meningococcal disease?

On Close-Up last Friday the MOH Dr Jacob's made false statements denying that the number of deaths last year was the lowest since the epidemic began. He said, falsely, that it was the second highest.

On Morning Report this morning the Ministry of Health's Dr Matheson made false statements regarding the licensing of the MeNZB(tm) vaccine.

Whilst we are extremely disappointed at the Ministry of Health's continued distribution of false information, we believe that this is further evidence of the need for a full public inquiry for reasons outlined in our Meningococcal Gold Rush, Second Edition, investigation on Scoop. Until that occurs, the public can have every reason to have decreasing faith in the Ministry of Health.

Posted by: Sepp on June 9, 2005 11:01 AM

 


IMAC's MeNZB Claim: Provide Evidence or Withdraw Opinion
Ron Law & Barbara Sumner Burstyn

"IMAC's dramatic statement today that the MeNZB(tm) vaccine is working in South Auckland needs to be substantiated by science or withdrawn as a cruel hoax," say risk and policy analyst, Ron Law and writer/researcher Barbara Sumner Burstyn.

This is especially so given that Nikki Turner declared that the MeNZB debate should be "based on science and not opinion."

"We challenge Nikki Turner to make public her scientific evidence that the vaccine is working or withdraw her opinion."

On national radio the Principal MeNZB(tm) researcher assessing effectiveness of the vaccine stated that it may not be possible to determine whether the vaccine has worked given the fact that its introduction coincided with the natural decline in the epidemic. Other experts stated that it may be several years before the effectiveness of the vaccine is known. Does Dr Turner know something they do not?

We attach our evidence that suggests that the MeNZB(tm) vaccine is not making one iota of difference to the decline in meningococcal disease in South Auckland -- the epidemic was declining naturally before the vaccine was introduced, and has, if anything, slowed up since the vaccine's introduction.

The public was promised that the vaccine would "halt the epidemic..."

It's time for IMAC to walk the talk... put up its evidence, or withdraw its opinion.

Our case for the bad science surrounding this State mass experiment has 75 references at

Note: IMAC is the Immunisation Advisory Centre at the University of Auckland.
IMAC's funding comes from the MOH and sponsorship by pharmaceutical companies.

Posted by: Sepp on June 10, 2005 10:39 AM

 


To Nikki Turner.. Seeing as you lurk here..

Why dont you explain why we are getting all these cases of Men B following the vaccinations going round... the cases in Waikato are twice that of last year already are they not ? Be Truthfull.. how many days post vaccination have some of these kids come down with MebNZ?

Why dont you people just admit you let this out before testing it enough.. before you kill some kids with this vaccine ?? If you havnt already !

Oh thats right you IMAC people couldnt give a rats hoot about Vaccine damaged children could you ? I know this from personal experience.. kill and damage some for the greater good of all.. how do sleep at night ?

How can you go on TV and say that vaccine is safe and it works and there are no concerns about it when there are thousands of parents that now have the Minutes of the Vaccine Sub-Commitee meeting 5th of April, 2004. Everyday they are sending those minutes to more and more people...its a snowball of truth you can't stop. Come clean and stop treating parents like gullible idiots ! Those minutes state the facts quite clearly about how unusual the application to license was...how there were concerns about efficacy and that the MeNZb at the time of licensing was NOT PROVEN to prevent the disease.

Just stop lying because the population is now onto you !

Your spin doctor crap is spinning into space and not convincing anyone !


Aly Cook
Parent

Posted by: Aly on June 18, 2005 11:50 AM

 


Good on ya Aly! ;-)

Posted by: doctor on June 20, 2005 09:29 PM

 


Letter I sent on 30th June to various Ministers including the Minister of Health....here it is....

Dear Ministers,

I'm speaking for many parents who are extremely concerned about outbreak of flu B that's hitting most parts of our country, potentially putting the lives of our children at risk.

I'm asking `where is the wisdom of immunising children with MeNZB vaccine when we know this flu is hitting healthy teenage kids and killing them?

Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect the medical experts would acknowledgethat there are many children in high risk of contracting this illness, and that they would consider stopping this immunisation programme as it may contribute to immune reactions, thus making children potentially vulnerable to contracting this illness?

The literature tells us that vaccination is safe if the person receiving the vaccination is healthy, but our kids are getting this flu like flies.....so I would like to ask the Ministry of Health to put on hold anymore MeNZB vaccinations until this Flu has run its course.

Please put genuine parental concern ahead of this campaign, again...it should be put on hold until this Flu epidemic has abated.

Kind Regards,

Chrissie Small


Posted by: Chrissie Small on July 6, 2005 11:56 AM

 


I have read compelling reports over the years that meningitis is suspected to have been actually created by vaccines in the first place.

A major New Zealand newspaper published full page advertisements after the meningitis campaign was rolled out, with descriptions of the side effects of Meningitis "C", not the one they told the public they were vaccinating for - and these side effects looked eerily exactly the same as very well documented and listed side effects of - wait for it - ADVERSE VACCINE REACTION! And rather weirdly, they also looked like the same symptoms that other "meningitis" causes.

Now I can't help but be a little confused with all this playing with the alphabet. I'm also a little bewildered by the fact that these symptoms are the exact same ones my daughter developed after a reaction to the DTP vaccine in the 80s that resulted in her convulsions that several times ended up with her hospitalisation.

After these incidents, the doctor, without making eye contact, let slip that if brain damage was proven to have occurred the NZ government apparently had a quiet compensation fund. Gee, thanks. You could have told me the risks first BEFORE you shot that needle into my baby girl's arm!

Now nobody in my country is really being given any chance to make any kind of an informed choice, unless they have a suspicious mind or have been given a reason to do some thorough research. And when this research is done - that's when the incredulity and shock realisations set in.

I really want to know if any deaths have occured following this recent meningitis vaccine campaign. Such as how many cases of glandular fever etc in vaccinated young people. One of my daughter's school friends dropped dead just days after the MMR vaccine in the early 90s.

Posted by: Frances on November 14, 2005 09:16 AM

 


The New Zealand Health Ministry issued a crowing press release today saying it's just done it's one millionth Meningitis vaccination.

In other words, there's a very large number of New Zealand children who have been now been injected with a very suspect, unproven toxic cocktail of potentially dangerous ingredients. So, hundreds and thousands of victims - and probably the Flu B mentioned in the Chrissie Small post, above, was Health Ministry PR speak for what was actually a natural immune reaction to this noxious cocktail.

Everyone should know that in World War 2 vaccines were tested by I G Farben on prisoners in Auschwitz - and most, if not all, of them died. They should also know that it is irrefutable that since vaccination was introduced into the population, developmental disorders such as autism have risen exponentially - and now each vaccinated child is pumped with increasing amounts of highly dangerous ingredients by the time they get to high school.

Credible highly regarded researchers from places like Harvard University have tried for many years to warn people of the truth of what is really going on. Credible people like Robert F Kennedy Jnr, son of the late President, have also released information on a conspiracy to conceal the knowledge that vaccines were responsible for autism.

But still in New Zealand the government and the media continue to collude in concealing this information from the public.


Posted by: Frances on November 16, 2005 10:57 AM

 


Latest Figures Debunk MOH Meningococcal Claim
by Ron Law
Risk & Policy Analyst

"Figures released by the ESR & MOH overnight debunk the Ministry of Health's claims that the MeNZB vaccine is having a major impact on meningococcal disease," says Risk & Policy Analyst, Ron Law.

Meningococcal disease has been in a steady decline since it peaked in 2001.

Meningococcal disease peaked in under five year olds in Auckland in 1999 and has been declining rapidly ever since.

CHART 1 - Decline of Meningococcal Disease in Auckland2006.pdf
  
CHART 2 - Meningococcal Decline to March 2006.pdf
  
The Ministry's own data clearly shows that the vaccine has made not one iota of difference to the ongoing natural decline.

The Ministry of Health's claim that this ongoing natural decline is due to the impact of the MeNZB vaccine is bizarre at best... to use this false claim to excite the Minister to get another $20 million dollars smacks of policy fraud... imagine what Plunket could do with that money.

Also puzzling is a letter from the Hon Pete Hodgson, the Minister of Health, in response to an Official Information Act request.

The Minister claims that the MOH is using the Census 2001 population to calculate meningococcal rates per 100,000. This claim is patently false and is being referred to the Ombudsman; The Ministry of Health are using a decade old population figure of 3.73 million which was the population of New Zealand in 1996...

"The Ministry of Health is still manipulating and falsifying data to justify its $250 million meningococcal vaccination experiment," says Ron Law.


Posted by: Ron Law on May 21, 2006 01:09 PM

 















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