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October 29, 2007

Guinea Pig Kids - 'Aids Denial' and Human Experiments

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Experiments with highly toxic pharmaceutical drugs on orphans in New York - exposed first by Liam Scheff in an article titled The House That AIDS Built - are still, after more than three years, the subject of heated discussion, specially since the BBC aired a documentary titled Guinea Pig Kids.

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Children refusing medication were surgically implanted a tube to allow direct injection of drugs into the stomach - Image: Pediatrics.

There are those who say the exposé was really a covert attempt to argue that HIV does not cause AIDS. Not really the truth but then, the media does not bend to truth - it bends to pressure. And pressure there was.

In January this year, a campaign by a group of AIDS activists who push the final solution of toxic chemo drugs for those unfortunate enough to test positive for a stressed protein fraction, bore down on the editorial offices of the BBC. The arguments were hard and heavy - any questioning of the orthodox (HIV=AIDS=DEATH) view was compared to denying the holocaust that hit the Jewish community during the Second World War. The word denialist was invented by the scheming cabal to describe those who have - often legitimate - questions about the association of HIV, AIDS and certain death in an obvious effort to associate them with the rascals of the day - the deniers of the holocaust.

Although the arguments missed the point - the documentary simply told of the plight of Incarnation's human guinea pigs - the BBC fell for the hard talk and caved, asking forgiveness for having aired their documentary on the drug experiments in the Children's home. Aidstruth, the group which set their sights on wiping out any opposition to the current dogma on AIDS, is jubilant.

One of the major figures in the Aidstruth camp is John P. Moore, associated with Weill Medical College of Cornell University in New York City. Moore is quite clear regarding the agenda of his group. He says they want nothing less than destroy - perhaps the equivalent of 'wipe off the map'? - the "denialists" who are causing so many problems to the pharma-drug based AIDS orthodoxy.

Liam Scheff analyzes and responds to John Moore's contradictory statements, giving him some of his own medicine...

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John P.Moore, Aids Denialist

by Liam Scheff

John P. Moore, of the New York Times, and of Aidstruth.org, on his approach to discourse and debate in science [Here ]:


  • “AIDS Truth’s approach is to destroy (by public exposure) the “leadership” of the AIDS denialist movement and thereby prevent them from causing the deaths of people who for various reasons are prone to believing the lies the denialists peddle for political reasons, including the profit motive.”

First, there is no “Aids denialist movement.” This is a term Moore has invented to describe those have pointed to the massive, blood-soaked failures of the standard Aids belief system, and pleaded for a new plan of attack on the many problems that “Aids” represents and stands in for.

Second, the profit motive belongs, solely, to the mainstream. Nobody is getting rich by asking GlaxoSmithKline, Abbott, Pfizer, Boehringer Ingelheim, or Bristol-Myers-Squibb to stop poisoning poor, Black children with their very profitable, internationally distributed and hawked drugs.

He continues:


  • “We know this approach is working, as we win every individual campaign we decide to fight (we don’t always publicize our successes, only when it suits us to do so).”

Moore, the “scientist” we’re supposed to trust, runs hard-core “campaigns” against those who would like to challenge a failing medical paradigm in public debate.


  • “The hard core denialists don’t like our strategy, because it’s so effective, and because they are not used to their own tactics being used against them (although, unlike the denialists, we don’t use immoral or illegal activities like cybercrime, threats, libels, etc, etc – the truth speaks for itself, and is sufficient).”

The AidsTruth “strategy” – Writing an endless stream of letters and press-releases to newspapers, to Deans and department heads of universities, to broadcast news agenices, slandering and libeling any and all professors, doctors, scientists, journalists, researchers, patients and private citizens who cite the ten thousand contradictions in the Aids paradigm, and who are asking – begging – for an opening up of the paradigm for reconsideration.

“I think “letting science speak,” is a great notion. On the other hand, Moore (and his cabal at Aidstruth.org), systematically refuse to debate those they attack. They state that they are on the side of “Truth,” and that everyone and anyone who opposes them (or their wishes), for whatever reason or reasons, is on the side of “the denialists.”

Moore says that “Aidstruth” doesn’t libel. But that’s all they do, because they won’t debate. They excuse themselves from their responsibility to face those they indict. They run like the cowards they are. (Ask them to debate anyone of the people they libel; we’ll arrange it the moment they find the cajones).

They don’t libel, but the word “Denialist” constitutes libel. Equating someone who points to the ten thousand published flaws in a dangerous medical paradigm, with someone who denies the Nazi state’s murder of millions in death camps, is a profound, and intentional, libel. Its intention is to terrify anyone and everyone from looking at the statements or research of those they denigrate, for fear of being labeled a “denialist”, too, in newspapers, press releases, and on the web.

They don’t threaten, says Moore, but “Destroying the leadership” constitutes a threat, when it is enacted by letter-writing smear campaigns against academics and researchers at Universities, who lose their jobs or their academic and intellectual freedom to challenge dangerous paradigms and to alert the public to flaws in policy.

Moore states, regarding patients who have been failed by standard “Aids drug” treatments:


  • “I have no comment to make on the person/people you refer to, as I don’t know enough about their personal histories, and I don’t offer SPECIFIC medical advice to SPECIFIC individuals in any case as I’m not a physician. In general terms, the best medical centers and physicians would surely be able to help this person/people find a suitable therapeutic regimen.

This is the same John P. Moore who claims that orphaned children should, nay, MUST be used in government/pharmaceutical drug trials, with three, four, five, six, seven drugs – FDA Black-Box labeled drugs (those that have permanently damaged or killed patients taking them) – at once.

That sounds like specific medical “advice” given to a great many specific individuals. But, “in any case,” he says, “I’m not a physician.” (But that’s alright, most physicians aren’t physicians these days, either).

Moore continues, highlighting his frankly, “denialist” position:


  • “I am puzzled by your comment regarding HIV+ status and immune deficiency. The science here is unequivocal and long-established: Not every individual who acquires HIV-1 infection develops AIDS, although the overwhelming majority do so over time.”

    “Individuals who do develop AIDS progress to that state over a highly variable time course, such that they may well suffer little or no overt immunodeficiency for a prolonged period until they become symptomatic. So, no, HIV+ status is NOT an AUTOMATIC indicator of immune deficiency,


And here is where the record skips. Aids is a name for a thousand kinds of deficiency or excess – wasting or cancer – that occurs in a thousand different environments on earth, for a thousand different reasons. “HIV testing” is a non-specific art, which moves certain groups of people into the Aids drug line.

“Hiv infection,” doesn’t necessarily lead to immune deficiency, says John P. Moore. And so it is.

But that’s not how it goes in the case of the crack-orphans in the Incarnation Children’s Center in Washington Heights. It is not variable, it is not questionable, it is only good for one thing.

Moore and his co-BBC-killer Jeanne Bergman, have decided that all of these children must be “allowed” (forced) to take these “life-saving medications” (that’s FDA Black Box-labeled drugs, to you and me), regardless of their actual health, actual illness, actual response to being on 7 drugs at once, or to any one of the many Aids drug that cause anemia, bone-marrow death, deformity, permanent cellular damage, and then death.

He continues, “So,